Showing posts with label mysterious deaths. Show all posts
Showing posts with label mysterious deaths. Show all posts

Monday, January 4, 2021

What Happened To Juan Santiago?

 What Happened To Juan Santiago?


 


[Info]


Juan Santiago (also known as Juanchito with his family) was born around 1984 (various sources state that he was anywhere from 35-37). He was from Massachusetts, and in 2020 he and his girlfriend Kristina Mock moved from Chealsea, MA to San Antonio, Texas. He is described as having been 5'10", 145 pounds, with brown hair and brown eyes (though some flyers describe him as having been 5'6"). Juan had a friend named Isaac that had a job for him there, where it has been stated that Kristina went with Juan for this reason. Juan was to reach out to Isaac when he got to San Antonio. Mock may or may not have had family in San Antonio, that was supposed to help them set up once getting to Texas.
Juan was described as a kid friendly guy, that loved his family. His children knew that they were loved, and he was on good terms with his childrens' mother, Sara Kulmacz. Juan was also described as the type of person that would drink a bit too much.


It seems that Juan and Kristina Mock were living in a hotel room in a Motel 6 on the 5500 block of Rittiman road.

Juan and Kristina


On June 19th (sometimes also listed as June 20th), 2020, Juan vanished from the Motel 6 after having made a 911 call. In the call, he is heard arguing with someone, and asks the operator to stay on the phone while he ran. He stated that he was running for his life from an unknown person that was after him. He had only been in San Antonio for one day before this happened.


On namus, it is stated the date of last contact is June 22nd, 2020.


When Sara found out that Juan had gone missing, she traveled to San Antonio from Florida to look for him, of which Juan's girlfriend, Kristina went to help her. According to articles, Kristina stated that Juan was suffering from alcohol withdrawal and had been experiencing hallucinations, proceeding to then run out of the hotel room.


When Juan disappeared, his family stated that it was uncharacteristic of him to not contact his family.
Later on when Sara had heard the phone call that Juan made to 911, she suspected that there was to the story than what Mock had told her.  Sara is quoted saying, "I felt betrayed. I wish she just told me the truth from the beginning. Because I would have had more to go on when I went out there, I would have been looking harder in wooded areas, for body and not just a homeless man.”


Allegedly, Mock had told a close family member that Juan had been suffering from alcohol withdrawal on the train (that they presumably took to San Antonio), before even getting to Texas.



According to Mock, when Juan ran out of the hotel, he grabbed her wallet and phone. This prompted a call from Mock, to Juan's family asking for 500 dollars. Juan's family refused, and Mock reached out multiple times afterward, asking for different amounts of money. She then called Juan's mother (who was deaf/mute), asking for money, stating that Juan had been arrested, and she needed it for bail. An aunt of Juan's walked in on the conversation and she asked Mock what jail Juan was being held in, then "freaked out" stating "I'm sorry, I'm sorry, it's just a misunderstanding.", then hung up.


Juan's family stated that they (Sara) received 'ransom' text messages stating that the receiver was cartel, and they were holding Juan hostage, and he was really sick and dying. If Juan's family didn't send 7000 dollars Juan would be killed. When his family went to the police about the text messages, they asked "Are you sure that he isn't sending you those text messages?". Sara had went to San Antonio and posted missing person posters around town, with her phone number, and received the fake texts all from the same number. SAPD then asked Sara if she wasn't sure that it wasn't Juan doing all of this. She notes that SAPD never took it seriously, and were making jokes the entire time about Juan's case.


SAPD joked that Juan was running from his girlfriend, when listening to the audio of the 911 call.
Juan's aunt, Aidely Santiago, stated in an interview with Jason Herbet that she had asked Mock if they had gone to the police to file a report. Mock stated that she tried to file a report with the San Antonio Police Department (SAPD), and that they told her that because she wasn't family, she couldn't file. Aidely then called SAPD to try and file, and they initially told her that an official (a security guard) saw Juan, and because Juan was 35 years old, he wouldn't be considered a missing person. Apparently the security guard also called 911.


In the interview with Jason Hebert, Sara stated that she was told that unless the person is a child, elderly, or disabled, a missing person's report on that person cannot be filed.


Juan's family then wanted a copy of the 911 call, and then had to go through the bureaucratic process. They were told that they had to request the 911 call in writing, in which they did so, and received it two weeks later.


After Juan's disappearance, Mock returned to Massachusetts, went to the hospital, then died. She checked herself into the Melrose-Wakefield Hospital, having had suicidal thoughts, and wanted to get help. It is unknown how or why Kristina Mock passed away. She had been in her hospital room for 15 hours, and was under suicide watch.


Sara Kulmacz, the mother of Juan's children, stated, "“She was the missing piece to the puzzle. She knew exactly what happened that day, when Juan went missing. Unfortunately, we’ll never get that piece anymore. We’ve had to accept that at this point.".



After Juan disappeared, Kristina Mock listed on her facebook that she was in a relationship. There are reports that supposedly she had already been talking to another man after Juan's disappearance.
Foul play is suspected as a part of Juan's disappearance, even before his body was found.


 

 

[Found]

Juan was missing for four months before his body was found in October of 2020. In one article, it states that Juan's body was found on October 17th, in John James Park. Apparently a man that had been walking his dog near the park entrance reported what they thought were human remains. An article from Kens5 states that the remains were badly decomposed. Days after the discovery, the bones were determined to be human. Maryln Rosa, Juan's aunt, reached out to the coroner that examined the remains, who stated that they fit the demographics for having been Juan. Interestingly, the bones were believed to have belonged to an older male. This may have been due to the advanced decomposition of the remains.


A man by the name of Frank Trevino, who lives in San Antonio and volunteers to help search for missing people, got into contact with Juan's family through social media. Trevino went to the park that the remains were found, and tried to find any sort of clue or material remains that may have belonged to Juan. One of the items that he had looked for was a diamond earring that he was known to wear, but Trevino left the park empty handed.

Frank Trevino


Different sources state that Santiago's remains were found Fort Sam Houston, which is right next to the park that the remains were initially found. This may be a misconception since Fort Sam Houston has its own park which the Salado Creek runs through (as the Salado also runs through the John James Park). John James park is technically owned by the city of San Antonio.


In an article from Kens5, on January 1st, 2021, the remains were confirmed to have been Juan's. It is important to note, that Juan's body was found relatively close to the motel.



Despite the family asking for phone records and information, there was no help from SAPD in coming forth with an information with either Juan or Kristina's phones.


Allegedly, the Air Force office of Special Investigations is working with several law enforcement agencies and San Antonio Police Department on the case. According to Juan's family, the FBI is also involved.


[Character]


 


The integrity of Kristina Mock's character is the most that comes into question. According to Juan's aunt Aidely, Mock was not very well known with Juan's family, and did not really participate in family events.

There apparently hadn't been much known conflict in the relationship between Juan and Mock, though at some point there was controversy about Mock claiming to have been pregnant which was a false positive (Mock instead had a tumor that may or may not've been removed). Mock was from a different city than Juan in MA, and Sara stated that no-one knew her. There is a story from Sara that Kristina Mock had stolen pills from a person in the past.
 

An interview with Kristina Mock's sister stated that she was just as shocked about her sister's death as Juan's.


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On facebook, there is a group called 'Help Find Juan Santiago of Chelsea Ma'. There is a post from Frank Trevino talking about the area that Juan's body was found. He states that the area that Juan was found was on federal land, unaccessable to the public. The area that Juan's remains were found was in a heavily wooded area near the outer perimeter of the base, the only people having access to the area having been the groundspeople that work for Fort Sam's National Cemetery. While the cemetery is open to the public during business hours, there aren't any roads to access the remote location on the outskirts of the cemetery grounds. The nearest building to the area being a group of maintenance sheds 1000 ft west for maintenance vehicles. Holbrook road is parallel to the creek, a public road that has access to Salado creek. In Trevino's post he states with confidence that Juan did not enter the park through Fort Sam Houston, but rather through Holbrook road. It is important to note that this area is less than 5000 feet from the Motel 6 that Juan was staying at.


In an interview, Sara stated that she was disappointed in San Antonio, Texas, SAPD, and Texas in general. She is right to feel that way especially towards SAPD, since they were not helpful and would even give incorrect information at times. Earlier in this post, I wrote how she was told that a person of Juan's age wouldn't be able to have been reported missing. I am unsure why the family was told this information, when there are literally people of all ages and backgrounds reported missing in the state of Texas. According to the 'Texas Missing Person Act', as available on the Texas Department of Public Safety website, a missing person is defined as:



"a person 18 years of age or older whose disappearance is possibly not voluntary. A "Missing Person" also includes a person of any age who is missing and is:
a) under proven physical or mental disability or is senile; or
b) missing under circumstances indicating that the missing person's safety is in doubt; or
c) unemancipated as defined by the laws of this state; or
d) missing after a catastrophe.".


The difficult part is getting the local law enforcement that a person went missing from to file the missing persons report. For some reason, the SAPD did not take Juan's disappearance seriously, and even stated that an official/security guard had seen Juan. Allegedly an official may or may not have given Juan a ride, though this does not explain him still going missing for four months after the June date.  Even still, through recordings of the 911 phone call, it appears more like Juan had been fighting with his girlfriend Kristina Mock, and he had been set up, and the people out to get him were trying to force him into a car.


All Texas law enforcement agencies are to immediately enter the name of the missing person into the Texas Missing Persons Clearinghouse upon receiving a report of a missing adult/child, and the entries are to be automatically entered into the NCIC's (National Crime Information Center) Missing Person File.


From what it sounds like me, it seems that Juan's family has grounds to sue the SAPD for negligence against Texas law standards.


Even further, to disprove the erroneous information that Juan's family was told about filing the missing person's report, there are technically different alerts for various age groups. While anybody can be registered as a missing person, elderly people for example, would be categorized as a Silver Alert, and as with the rest of the country, children are listed as Amber Alerts. There is absolutely no reason a 35 year old male could not be filed as a missing person. Even further, a person can easily look onto websites such as the doenetwork and namus, and find files of people missing in the state of Texas from wildly different ages.


Through my own personal opinion, Juan's family could have filed the paperwork for him to have been considered endangered missing or to file a clear alert, before his remains were found. Of course, they are at the mercy of the SAPD, who seemed to have refused to have done their jobs. It really feels like Juan's family was taken advantage of, because they were from out of state.
 

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While this does not directly affect Juan's case, I personally feel like this is yet one more example of the United States police system needing a revamp in requirements. While each state is different, it seems like the bar is set too low. In order for a person to join the police force in any area in Texas, they are supposed to have their TCOLE certification (for people not from TX, the TCOLE is the class that basically teaches you the police stuff.) that can usually be done at any community college. The problem with this though, is that TCOLE classes are less than a year, usually anywhere between a semester's worth of time to maybe 9 months. It takes longer for a person to get an associate degree, or even a bachelor's degree than it does to become a police officer. This is my own personal opinion, which I don't like to normally interject in cases like these, but I really do feel like police officers need more training before being hired for the job. There is a gross lack of misunderstanding and humility with officers and it shows in Juan's case, as they refused to help his family.


In the city of San Antonio, a person only needs to be over the age of 21, with a high school diploma or GED, and a clean offense record to be considered a potential applicant. SAPD flaunts having one of the highest starting pays for cadets in the state of Texas, with a base pay of 45,000 a year. Interestingly, in an article with Kens5, Scott Hermes a 27 year career officer, stated that turnover is a regular thing for SAPD. In 2018, it was reported that an income of 58,504 dollars was needed to live comfortably in the city. The starting pay for a cadet is less than that. In a 2017 article with Texas Public Radio, it was reported that San Antonio has one of the lowest officers per capita of any police department in the country. In October of 2016, there were 40 cadets in the Delta Class, of which 23 graduated. Normally the attrition rate was 13%, then it rose to over 40. In comparison to other major cities in Texas, where Dallas 27 and Houston have 23 officers per 10,000 people, San Antonio has 15.


Juan's case is not the only one of negligence in the SAPD. In 2016, there was the story of a San Antonio cop that fed a homeless man a feces sandwich. While the cop lost his job, he was later reinstated, due to a local city code that prevents and officer from discipline for conduct that occurred more than 180 days before they are disciplined. This same officer also defecated in a female restroom in the downtown bike patrol office and refused to flush the toilet. He and another officer took some sort of brown substance and smeared it on the toilet seat giving the appearance of feces.



To me, this proves that the officers of San Antonio are severely lacking in education, judgement, and hiring protocol. It is extremely unfortunate that Juan was put into a situation where the people that are supposed to have helped him, were useless from the start.
 

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It is implied though not directly stated, that Kristina must have been addicted to some sort of drugs, and it makes me wonder if perhaps she tried to get Juan onto something. I wonder if she set him up and the whole situation may have been a drug deal gone wrong. There is not much that seems to have been said about this contention. Even further, according to many articles she is quoted as having said that Juan was going through alcohol withdrawals. Interestingly, in the DSM IV it states that symptoms of alcohol withdrawal, from heavy and prolonged abuse, include:


-autonomic hyperactivity (sweating or pulse rate greater than 100)
-increased hand tremors
-insomnia
-nausea or vomiting
-transient visual, tactile, or auditory hallucinations or illusions
-psychomotor agitation
-anxiety
-and grand mal seizures.


It should be noted though, that when a person alcohol withdrawal delirium they are likely to have some other sort of clinical relevant general medical condition such as liver failure, pneumonia, gastrointestinal bleeding, or hypoglycemia.


Despite the reports from Kristina Mock that Juan had been suffering from hallucinations, it does not seem that he may have really been undergoing alcohol withdrawal, and even further, not a single family member has ever stated that he had any serious medical problems like those listed above. Even further, a person who would suffer from alcohol withdrawal would have to have had alcohol abuse, which typically affects a person's family; and as Juan's family stated multiple times he loved his family so much, and always kept in contact with them.



I'm sure that many people have questions as to how his body ended up where it did, and how it went unnoticed for so long. If he went missing in June, and skeletal remains weren't found until October, wouldn't anyone have smelled a decaying body in the Texas humidity?


What is important to remember, is that the skeletal remains wear near the Salado river. What I think may have happened, and this complete conjecture, is that Juan was killed for some sort of potential drug deal gone wrong, and his body was dumped somewhere on that side of San Antonio. What people might not know though, is that the Salado creek tends to flood when it rains enough in San Antonio. Even further, I have seen for myself, that when the creek floods it tends to get a load of trash flowing through it. There may have been a possibility that Juan's body was in the Salado for those four months, maybe nipped at by animals, and then eventually, the remains landed at John James Park. I do think that the people that killed him stripped him of his clothes that he was wearing when he started running in the 911 call. Considering how no piece of his clothing or his diamond earring was found, I can only assume that he had to have been stripped naked.


People may also have the question as to why Sara initially thought she may have been looking for a homeless man at first, instead of body. San Antonio has a large homeless population, and you can drive around the city and see homeless camps in various places from under highways, to behind Walmarts, and people sleeping on the Riverwalk. There is a definite economic disparity in the city, especially among different races; and while San Antonio brings in new companies to build new stores, the jobs stay low wage and low paying. The price of housing keeps going up, while the availability to have a career gets lower. Colloquially, people from the area tend to see San Antonio as a place to get 'call center' or 'McJobs', where as the other big cities such as Austin or Houston provide more room to have a career.


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Through all of that, I do not have much more to provide about the scenario. I do look at the situation with an 'occam's razor' point of view. Meaning, 'the simplest explanation is usually the right one'. Personally, I think that Kristina Mock had some type of drug addiction. I think that she knew people in San Antonio, and whether Juan was knowledgable about it  I am not sure. I think that the reason for the 911 call, must have been from a drug deal that she must have organized and it started to go south, or perhaps she purposely tried to get Juan robbed. I believe that Mock knew the real story, and the real location of Juan, and who killed him. She must have had an extreme amount of guilt on her conscience once she saw the family outcry and search for Juan. It is interesting to me that she thought about suicide, and was on suicide watch not long before she died. In some sort of way, I think that she must have killed herself before ending up in the hospital. It possible that she may have ingested something that later would have killed her when she was in the hospital. Unfortunately we may never know the real story, and the truth as to what happened to Juan.


Since this story is so new, there is no find a grave page for either Kristina Mock or Juan Santiago. Seeing that the news was only confirmed on January 2nd, 2021 and at the time of writing, it is the 3rd, Juan's remains are still in the process of going back to his family.



May he rest in peace.


[SOURCES]


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Saturday, December 19, 2020

Larry Murillo-Moncada: From Lost to Found

 Larry Moncada: Lost Then Found


 


Larry Murillo-Moncada, presumably born in 1984, was last seen by his parents on November 28th, 2009 in Council Bluffs, Iowa. He had left his parent's house wearing only his blue jeans and a long sleeved shirt, leaving behind his wallet, medication, and any other personal belongings. He was described as 140 pounds, and 6 feet tall, though one source states that he was 5'6" for some reason.
Prior to this,  Larry had come home after a working a Thanksgiving shift at the supermarket, 'No Frills'. He came home disoriented, his heart was beating fast, was experiencing hallucinations and hearing voices that were telling him to eat sugar He believed that someone was following him. That same day, his mother took him to the doctor where he was prescribed medicine, one source stating anti-depressants to treat anxiety, but he seemed have had an adverse reaction. On the 28th, Larry allegedly got into an argument with his parents, and fled his home. When he did not return the next day, his mother filed a missing person's report. 


For years, no-one knew what happened to Larry, and in 2016, the store that he worked at closed down.
Ten years after his disappearance, Larry's body was found. There were no signs of trauma, but the context of his death became even more of a mystery. In January of 2019, contractors went to the closed grocery store to remove fittings and tear apart the freezer unit. Between the freezer and a wall, was an 18 inch gap of which Larry's body was found. At the time of discovery, authorities stated that the body had been there for a long period of time. When the body was first found, Sgt. Brandon Danielson stated that Larry was the first person to come to mind. After DNA testing, it was proved that the body was indeed Larry Moncada's. 


The question beyond this is...how? How did he fall behind the freezer, and how did nobody notice his body was there? While the space was 18 inches wide, he had fallen 12 feet, and the loud sound of the freezers may have muffled any cries for help. As for why Larry even ended up in the freezer area, it was stated by many of the former employees that used to work there that they would climb on top of the freezers since the space was often used for storage and to pass time. The employees would climb the coolers to hide from customers and take breaks. 


 


An autopsy showed no signs of trauma. 


Early in the investigation for Larry, authorities and his parents went to the store looking for him. Both his mother and father had the feeling that the store would reveal some sort of answer, though nothing came to fruition. Even the authorities had asked Moncada's boss where he might have been, to which they stated that they didn't know, and Larry wasn't scheduled to work at that time.


His death is considered accidental, with the case being closed.


Since the news has come out that he was stuck behind the freezers, there have been many people on social media from the area stating that they had been to that exact store. During this time period, there are reports of people having smelled something odd, and even talking to employees about what the possible smell was, though it was usually fanned off.


 [Afterword]

While people wonder how Larry was able to get in the store, I personally think that he must have went straight to the store after leaving his parents' house. Despite not having any shoes or keys, some sources state that he left the house around 6 pm. Most stores would have been open during that time. Though, you would think that perhaps he would have been asked about why he wasn't wearing any shoes. I believe it is possible that he went to the store hiding spot to potentially sort out his thoughts, and of course met his fate by accident. Perhaps he slipped because his feet would have been wet from the snow?


Some people wonder what type of medicine that Larry was on. I have not seen any confirmed records as to what type of medicine that he had taken, though I do want to acknowledge that he allegedly had only tried the new medicine for one day before going missing. If the medication was an anti-depressant as they said, I am unsure how one day of medicine could make a person react in such a way. Typically, a medicine needs at least 2-4 weeks to course through one's body before knowing any sort of effects.
I do acknowledge though, that when looking at the side effects of Sertaline (a generic version of Zoloft which is also used to treat Anxiety) extreme side effects consist of:


-seizures
-abnormal bleeding or bruising
-hallucinations, fever sweating, confusion, fast heartbeat, nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea
-rash, hives, and swelling and
-difficulty breathing.

I am not trying to come off as condescending, but since we don't know what type of medicine he was prescribed, it's tough to gauge whether it could have been the medicine or mental illness. Further, considering the way the story is represented, it seems that Larry was experiencing most of these symptoms before the medication, and not after. What I am most curious about are the voices that he heard in his head. Hearing voices is atypical of anxiety disorder, which makes me believe that if Larry was prescribed an SSRI, and had a different mental illness, then the anxiety medicine may have very well caused him to have his final freak out. A quick google search shows that a person could hear voices for either being schizophrenic or having bipolar disorder.

In the end, we will never truly know what went through Larry Moncada's mind when he left his parent's house that night. Rest in peace.


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Monday, May 4, 2020

The Murders of Carmen Charger and Delmas Traversie Jr.

FBI Most Wanted Case: The Murders of Carmen Charger and Delmas Traversie Jr.



In March of 2019, there was a snow storm in South Dakota that lasted two days. During this time, Carmen Charger and Delmas Traversie Jr. were at 717 No Heart Housing in Eagle Butte, somewhere around the days of the 13 through the 15th . At the time of this writing, there is next to no information released about the case, though the deaths were ruled suspicious enough to get the FBI involved. Currently the case is still active, and the FBI will not share the cause of death until an arrest has been made.

Carmen, also known as Happy, was 39 at the time of her death. She is survived by her children and extended family. Delmas, also known as Cactus, was 63, is survived by his spouse and children. Though Carmen and Delmas were not related to each other, they both lived in the house at 717. Both were enrolled members of the Cheyenne Sioux Tribe Indian Reservation.

Currently, the FBI is asking that anyone who knows any information to contact the Minneapolis Field Office at 763-569-8000, and offering a reward of up to 5,000 dollars for leads leading to the arrest and conviction of the case. 

[SOURCES]









Thursday, February 27, 2020

What Happened To Ronnie Howard after The Manson Trial?





Anyone that is familiar with the Manson trial knows that the story of how it all happened was essentially broken when Susan Atkins went to Sybil Brand. For those that don’t know, in October of 1969, just a couple months after the Tate-LaBianca murders, Susan was arrested and put in jail for a whole other charge, arson. At the time, the police were really looking at the The Family for a series of auto thefts that kept happening in the area, and a burnt truck in Death Valley got their attention. In fact, a week after the Tate murders, she and others were initially arrested at Spahn Ranch, but were later released since the warrant used had an incorrect date. So after the first arrest, the group went up to their other hub in Death Valley-Barker Ranch. Through various things that led the police to them, Atkins and some of the others were arrested again, and incarcerated. Initially, it really only seemed that the group was an auto-theft, chop-shop ring, until Susan decided to explain it all.



Susan ended up in Sybil Brand Institute, in dormitory 8000. According to transcripts, Susan’s bed was next to Ronnie Howard’s, of which she told Howard she felt, “We are next to each other for a reason.”. At Sybil Brand, Susan earned the nickname of “Crazy Sadie”, the other inmates thought that she was a nut. She was seen dancing, singing, and generally way too happy to be in jail. For one reason or another, Susan felt that she could confide in her fellow inmates Ronnie Howard and Virginia Graham, not about the auto theft charges, but instead of the murders.

While in lockup, Susan would tell on multiple occasions, her story on the murders. She really seemed to relish in tell others about it, perhaps either as a trophy of sorts, or maybe she believed that they would be impressed with her. In reality, Ronnie and Virginia were horrified, and wanted to tell the authorities.



As the story goes, Ronnie Howard and Virginia Graham were conflicted about telling someone what had happened. In jail themselves, the two women weren’t squeaky clean and had been incarcerated in the past. At the time, Howard was in jail for forging a prescription, and Graham had a parole violation. The two women had also been call girls in the past. Knowing that snitches were frowned upon, the two were unsure what to do, but eventually decided to tell someone the truth.

It was hard to get into contact with someone for both women, as the system wouldn’t easily want to hear them, but to make a long story short, Ronnie Howard was able to make a phone call at a payphone (after paying other people ahead of her in line), when about to get on a prison bus to go to court. She was able to briefly get in contact with the LAPD and tell them what Susan Atkins had told her about the Tate case.



Even though I’ve read a few books, watched many documentaries and videos on the whole case, I never really came across much about what exactly happened when Ronnie went to court. All I really know is that Virginia Graham and Ronnie Howard both testified at the trial.

As a personal anecdote, when I came across this whole rabbit hole, it wasn’t until halfway through reading the Manson book by Guinn that I wondered what ever happened to some of these people. Ronnie was one of them, and I always figured that by now, in 2020, she surely wouldn’t be with us anymore, though probably lived a long good life. Unfortunately I was wrong.

Ten years after the murders, after Susan Atkins told it all at Sybil Brand, Ronnie Howard passed away. There are two main sources for this information, her Find a grave profile, and the end of ‘Helter Skelter’ by Bugliosi. Both sources state the same thing, though each have certain details that the other doesn’t have.



First of all, after the trial, both Ronnie and Virginia were considered snitches. On page 631 of my copy of Helter Skelter, near the end of the page, it stated that Ronnie tried to work as a cocktail waitress “but found it difficult to hold a job”. It is stated that she was looked down upon as the “Manson case snitch” and even had been beaten up several times on her way home from work. At one point, there was a bullet shot into her apartment, through the living room window. The bullet only missed her head by 6 inches. Apparently the next day she had talked to reporters, stating that she “should have kept my mouth shut in the first place”.

On September 21st, 1979, Ronnie had came back to Los Angeles from Las Vegas. She had gone with her husband and his brother, and according to the two sources, she was waiting on the men as they got the luggage. Now, Find a grave states that she was kidnapped, by someone who claimed to be a cab driver. In Helter Skelter, Bugliosi wrote that Ronnie had been beaten by two unknown men. Either way, the person or men took Ronnie, just as her husband and brother-in-law were coming with the luggage. They drove her to 60th and Western, where she was robbed and beaten.

Apparently after they robbed her of $400 in cash and $800 in jewelry, they dumped her in an industrial district, and later she called her husband telling him what happened. A police report was made, and it was found that she had been beaten with a blunt instrument on her head and thighs.

After the incident, Ronnie was described as having suffered from nausea, dizziness, and headaches. She became increasingly lethargic and was taken to Queen of Angels hospital on September 25th of that year. Ronnie was treated then released, but on October 1st, she was found incontinent, and unable to get out of bed. At this point, Ronnie was taken to Cedars Sinai and at this point her eyes were absent, like “doll’s eyes”. On October 3rd, 1979, Ronnie Howard passed away at 12:30 pm of blunt force trauma, brain stem compression, subdural hematoma, and cerebral edema. She was 43 years old.

Those that have read about what happened believe that Ronnie was a target of the remainders of the Manson Family, since she snitched on what Susan told her. Police stated that her death was not related to the Tate-LaBianca case, though many people believe otherwise.

Ronnie Howard is buried in Los Angeles Odd Fellows Cemetery, in Los Angeles, California.

SOURCES:

Helter Skelter

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/32243782/ronnie-howard